MSI GE75 Raider 9SG overview (Core i9-9880H, Nvidia RTX 2080)
You might have learn the overview of the MSI GE75 that Andrei wrote a number of months again. He gave it some good marks, praising its efficiency, display and audio system. Nevertheless it was fairly brief with battery life and the keyboard felt just a little off to him.
MSI was in a position to present me with an up to date prime of the road pattern, with an i9 CPU and the RTX 2080. I’m actually excited to check the efficiency on this one, because it’s the primary i9 I’ve examined and it’s additionally a full 2080, not the Max-q variant.
To begin off, I can simply say that I’m fairly happy with what MSI is providing. There’s loads to love about this laptop computer, because it actually does carry out phenomenally. It’s additionally a fairly cheap measurement for having such highly effective parts in it.
However there are some issues that I believe want enchancment, most of which align with what Andrei seen in his earlier overview. See my findings under for extra particulars.
Specs as reviewed – MSI GE75 Raider 9SG
|MSI GE75 Raider 9SG|
|Display screen||17.Three inch, 1920 x 1080 px, IPS, 144 Hz, matte|
|Processor||Intel 9th Gen Espresso Lake i7-9880H CPU, octa-core 2.Three GHz (four.eight GHz increase)|
|Video||Intel HD 630 and NVIDIA GeForce 2080|
|Reminiscence||32 GB DDR4 2667Mhz (2×16 GB DIMMs)|
|Storage||1 TB M.2 NVMe (Samsung PM981 MZVLB1T0HALR)|
|Connectivity||Killer Wi-fi-AC 1550i, Bluetooth 5.zero|
|Ports||2x USB-A Three.2 gen2, 1x USB-A Three.2 gen1, 1x USB-C Three.2(no Thunderbolt Three), headphone, mic, Ethernet, HDMI 2.zero, Displayport|
|Battery||65 Wh, 280 W charger|
|Measurement||397 mm or 15.63” (w) x 268.5 mm or 10.57” (d) x 27.5 mm or 1.08” (h)|
|Weight||2.66 kg (5.86 lbs)|
|Extras||individually lit RGB keyboard, clickpad, HD webcam, stereo audio system, subwoofer SD card reader|
Design and construct
The 2019 GE75 Raider is the center floor when it comes to measurement for MSI laptops, because it’s just a little thicker than the GS75, however a lot thinner and lighter than the GT75. It’s mainly about as skinny because it takes to not have Max-Q variations of the GPU.
The GE75 is surprisingly lighter and thinner than I used to be anticipating, particularly having a full RTX 2080. The development is a mixture of steel and plastic, however is put collectively fairly decently. I did discover just a little little bit of flex within the lid although, which I wasn’t anticipating on a laptop computer this thick, particularly with it being steel.
The lid is fabricated from a skinny sheet of brushed aluminum. As a substitute of the extra delicate brand on their GS collection, MSI opted to go together with their traditional glowing dragon emblem on this one. There are additionally some laborious crimson strains which bulge out just a little on the lid. I wouldn’t say it’s overly flashy, as a result of I’ve seen a lot worse (these used to glow), however it’s nonetheless just a little a lot for my style.
The perimeters, palmrest and underbelly are all fabricated from plastic. The keyboard space is definitely fairly normal-looking till you get to the trackpad, the place there’s a vibrant crimson border surrounding it. There’s plenty of stickers on the palmrest, which will be peeled off, fortunately. However the debossed Dynaudio brand and Steelseries emblems are each there to remain.
There are three buttons above and to the best of the keyboard. The facility button is up prime and has a small led which modifications coloration based mostly on if the dGPU is getting used. The center button modifications the keyboard lighting profile. The underside button prompts the cooler increase fan profile.
There’s a lot of connectivity on this laptop computer. Beginning on the left, there’s an HDMI and Mini Displayport on your video outputs. There’s additionally a USB-C port, however it’s not Thunderbolt Three, sadly. A single USB-A port is between the USB-C and Mini-DP. There’s additionally a headphone and microphone jack. That headphone jack helps Hifi by the best way, so when you have supported headphones, they’re gonna sound nice.
Additionally on the left aspect is an Ethernet port. Behind that is without doubt one of the exhaust followers, and eventually behind that’s the Kensington lock. The appropriate-hand aspect of the laptop computer is much much less eventful. There are solely two USB-A ports and a full-sized SD card reader. Lastly, there’s one other exhaust fan in direction of the again and the facility jack is true behind it.
By the best way, these USB ports truly gentle up. It’s controllable in Dragon Heart and there are two brightness settings in addition to a option to flip them off. Hope you want crimson, as a result of that’s the one obtainable coloration. It’s nonetheless a pleasant characteristic in the event you’re continually connecting gadgets at midnight, although.
The again fringe of the laptop computer has a Raider brand with crimson accents. Flanked on either side are some extra exhaust vents. On the entrance edge, is just a few indicator lights, that are white.
The underbelly is fairly distinctive. There’s plenty of cutouts for vents and audio system, however they’re cleverly made right into a cool-looking design. The footpads are additionally distinctive, however work properly.
Total, I’m simply comfortable with the design. It’s much more delicate than the earlier model of this class, however it’s nonetheless just a little too unprofessional for me to make use of. I hate to say deal breaker, however for me it simply is. That’s simply my opinion, although, and it’s actually the one factor that will maintain me again from this mannequin. What I’d actually wish to see sooner or later is a GS75 that’s merely thicker and constructed stronger. My two cents.
Keyboard and trackpad
The keyboard may be very acquainted to me, because it’s just about the identical format that has been utilized in all of MSI’s laptops 15” and over. Being a former GS60, GS63VR, GS73VR and GS65 proprietor, I tailored simply nice.
Surprisingly sufficient, I discovered this keyboard considerably completely different to kind on, although. It’s not dangerous, simply completely different. The mixture of key suggestions and the lengthy journey could be the reason for it. And perhaps I’m simply so used to skinny laptops with low journey. Somwhow, I simply discovered that I actually need to hit the keys tougher than I did with all of the earlier MSI laptops I’ve used.
That stated, my typing expertise was nice as soon as I adjusted. I took my normal typing check and scored 56 wpm, which is just about nearly as good as I sometimes kind.
The keyboard format is fairly regular for probably the most half, with good sized shift keys and arrow keys which can be out of the best way, however not cramped. There are some oddities although, such because the delete key tucked above the Numpad, the key on the underside row and the home windows and Fn keys being swapped.
These latter keys will be swapped again in software program and might the caps can even bodily be swapped. If I owned this laptop computer, that will be the very first thing I’d do, as it might make altering brightness and quantity a one-handed operation.
The keyboard is backlit with individually lit RGB keys. These will be modified within the included SteelSeries software program. Total, it’s fairly simple to customise a profile you need. There are four ranges of brightness to the keys, that are changeable with the keyboard shortcut
The trackpad is fairly good. It’s not a clickpad and has some bodily buttons under it. In case you’re not into buttons, you possibly can nonetheless use the trackpad with faucets and double-finger faucets, which is just about what I decide to do naturally.
Monitoring and multi-touch gestures labored very properly for me. I had no issues with utilizing the trackpad for my everyday actions. It’s just a little smaller than I’m used to having, and is smaller than their thinner GS75, however I’m guessing they opted for this to maximise area for batteries.
The buttons are flush with the trackpad, which is nice and dangerous. I like that they don’t bulge or stick out, however it’s just a little troublesome to differentiate between them, because the area between is sort of non-existent. What’s additionally form of annoying is the truth that they depress in another way. It might simply be my mannequin, however the best button is way more clicky than the left.
On the finish of the day, the trackpad remains to be good and I’m actually comfortable with each the enter gadgets on this laptop computer.
This mannequin of the GE75 has a 17.Three-inch IPS panel with FHD decision and 144 Hz refresh charge. It’s made by Chi Mei, with half quantity N173HCE-G33.
This panel is completely good, because it was just about calibrated proper out of the field, is vibrant and has nice viewing angles.
The utmost brightness I used to be in a position to obtain was 389 nits, which is ideal for even outside use. The blacks are additionally very deep, leading to a distinction ratio of practically 1500:1.
I took some measurements on my xRite i1 Show Professional sensor and right here’s what I received:
- Panel HardwareID: Chi Mei – N173HCE-G33;
- Protection: 95% sRGB, 68% NTSC, 73% AdobeRGB;
- Measured gamma: 2.2;
- Max brightness in the midst of the display: 389 cd/m2 on energy;
- Distinction at max brightness:1496:1
- Native white level: 6880 Ok;
- Black on max brightness: zero.26 cd/m2.
- PWM: Sure.
As you possibly can see, the brightness may be very excessive and fairly evenly distributed. The one grievance I’ve in any respect with this panel is that I’ve some fairly vital backlight bleed on this unit. It’ll range from unit to unit, however mine was fairly noticeable on a regular basis. That is typical of IPS screens, however it’s one thing you ought to be conscious of.
One very last thing to notice is that GSYNC is disabled and MSI has opted for higher battery life with Optimus. It’s in all probability for the very best, because the 144Hz refresh charge will stop most tearing with most video games in any case.
Backlight bleed apart, that is my favourite 17” panel to this point. It’s vibrant, coloration correct and has a quick refresh charge. It’s on the border of being too low in pixel density, as I discover QHD extra interesting a decision at this display measurement. However I’ll take what I see right here any day.
This specific mannequin of the GE75 Raider comes with an Intel Core i9-9880H, which is without doubt one of the top-of-the-line cell CPUs obtainable as of the second a part of 2019. It’s an octa-core and tops out at four.8Ghz of increase, which makes fairly a distinction within the efficiency in demanding masses. 32GB of RAM is paired with the CPU on this configuration, in addition to a full-power Nvidia RTX 2080 GPU, which additionally doesn’t disappoint.
The NVMe drive on this mannequin is 1TB and is upgradable. The mannequin quantity is Samsung PM981 and the speeds are glorious. See my Crystal disk mark benchmark for the small print on the speeds. There’s an additional M.2 slot on this laptop computer, so you may also add a second M.2 NVMe or SATA drive, if desired. There’s additionally an extra 2.5” SSD bay.
Upgrading isn’t as simple as I hoped. The Phillips screws are simple to take away, however notice that one is behind a manufacturing facility seal sticker. The underside cowl can also be held on by some tight clips although, so you want to use a plastic opening instrument or a guitar choose to be able to unclip them. Be actually cautious in the event you resolve to do that. I began from the entrance and labored my means counterclockwise.
As soon as inside, all of the swappable parts are clearly seen. All the things must be fairly straight ahead to switch, however in the event you don’t get a mannequin with a 2.5” drive, you’ll need to improvise when including your personal. It seems like there’s presupposed to be a bracket there, however it wasn’t included in mine.
The efficiency on this laptop computer is simply unbelievable. The i9 mixture with the RTX 2080 just about ensures higher than 60fps on most video games, even at extremely settings. Everyday duties opened as shortly as attainable and I didn’t discover any efficiency stutters your complete time I used to be utilizing the laptop computer. Having a Razer Blade 15 as my every day driver, I’m fairly envious at how significantly better this laptop computer performs.
I took various artificial benchmarks. For these exams, I left the fan profile in Auto and the profile in Dragon Heart was set to Turbo. Right here had been my outcomes:
- 3DMark 11:27341 (Graphics – 35329, Physics – 16366);
- 3DMark 13 – Fireplace Strike:21122 (Graphics – 25020, Physics – 20278);
- 3DMark 13 – Time Spy:9864 (Graphics – 10067, CPU – 8854);
- 3DMark 13 – Port Royal:5864
- Uniengine Superposition – 1080p Excessive:6304;
- PCMark 10:6107 (Necessities 9264, Productiveness 8176, Content material 8160);
- GeekBench four.Three.Three 64-bit:Single-Core: 5615, Multi-core: 29812;
- CineBench R15: OpenGL 129.01 fps CPU 1635 cb, CPU Single Core 188 cb;
- CineBench R20: CPU 3563 cb, Single Core 424 cb
There was just a little thermal throttling on the CPU whereas operating these exams, so I retook them with a -125mV undervolt. I additionally added a 150Mhz overclock to the GPU. Right here had been my outcomes:
- 3DMark 13 – Fireplace Strike:21181 (Graphics – 26011, Physics – 20968);
- 3DMark 13 – Time Spy:10157 (Graphics – 10322, CPU – 9316);
- 3DMark 13 – Port Royal:6051
- Uniengine Superposition – 1080p Excessive:6502;
- PCMark 10:6022
- GeekBench four.Three.Three 64-bit:Single-Core: 5553, Multi-core: 29546;
- CineBench R15: OpenGL 127.05 fps CPU 1708 cb, CPU Single Core 186 cb;
- CineBench R20: CPU 4029 cb, Single Core 444 cb
It’s not clear if undervolting improved the CPU efficiency, however it definitely helped the temperatures by a number of levels. HWinfo reported just a little thermal throttling on a few of the cores throughout testing, however it wasn’t that dangerous and hardly affected the scores.
I additionally ran some testing on video games. All gaming exams had been additionally carried out on Auto fan profile with default CPU and GPU settings in Dragon Heart.
|No Man’s Sky (Extremely)||100-132 fps|
|Battlefield V (DX 12 ON, Medium Preset, Ray-Tracing ON)||95-111 fps|
|Battlefield V (DX 12 On, Medium Preset, Ray-Tracing OFF)||144 fps|
|Battlefield V (DX 12 On, Extremely Preset, Ray-Tracing ON)||64-74 fps|
|Battlefield V (DX 12 On, Extremely Preset, Ray-Tracing OFF)||110-124 fps|
|Remaining Fantasy XV (High)||110-120 fps|
|Remaining Fantasy XV (Highest)||80-114fps|
|The Witcher Three: Wild Hunt (DX 11, Extremely Preset, Hairworks Off)||133-153 fps|
|The Witcher Three: Wild Hunt (DX 11, Extremely Preset, Hairworks On)||106-132 fps|
You possibly can clearly see what I imply now – this factor can sport.
Having the 144Hz display paired with this laptop computer was definitely a great name. However I do form of want they’d make a 144Hz QHD display, since I believe this CPU/GPU combo would have dealt with it properly.
Emissions (noise, warmth), Connectivity and audio system
The cooling system on this laptop computer is fairly intensive. It actually must be, contemplating the CPU and GPU are as highly effective as they’re. I took the laptop computer aside to have a look.
Each the CPU and GPU carry a big array of heatpipes, that are related to the 2 massive followers. The CPU will get 5 heatpipes and the GPU will get three, with one being shared between the 2. There’s additionally an additional heatpipe that sits on the highest of the CPU heatsink, which in all probability helps cool the VRM.
It’s plenty of heatpipes, however sadly, that also isn’t sufficient to maintain your CPU below 90C. Even undervolted, I nonetheless barely broke below 90C. The one option to get it decrease is to set the followers to cooler increase, however then you definitely’re coping with some loud noise.
I believe undervolting is sufficient although. CPU temperature could spike within the 90s often, however it’s not sustained there. And whether it is sustained, the followers ultimately catch as much as compensate. My gaming outcomes had been higher than my benchmark outcomes.
As you’ll count on with followers this massive, the noise ranges are undoubtedly noticeable. I took some noise ranges in a quiet room, which ambient noise ranges registering at 28dB.
With regular everyday duties, I detected some gentle fan noise that measures 35dB at ear degree and 37dB on the unit. Reasonable gaming measured 40dB at ear degree and 50dB on the laptop computer itself.
For heavy gaming, I simply turned on Cooler Enhance mode, which just about maximizes the followers. With these turned on, I measured 48dB at ear degree and 60dB on the unit. Fairly loud.
For exterior temperatures, I took some readings on the surface of the casing, prime and backside, whereas below regular masses and in addition whereas gaming. Right here’s what I received:
*Each day Use – Netflix for 30 minutes
*Load (followers ~48 dB) – taking part in Battlefield V for roughly 30+ minutes on extremely FHD settings
It will get fairly sizzling below gaming masses, however this isn’t a lot of a shock to me. In any case, there’s an i9 CPU inside paired with a full-sized 2080.
For connectivity, the Killer E2500 module offers an awesome connection to each Wifi and Bluetooth 5.zero. My web connection was maxed out at 480Mbps so far as 30 toes from my entry level. No drops in connection, which is what I count on. Total I’m very proud of it.
For audio, there’s a pair of downward-facing audio system, in addition to two downward-facing subwoofers. These are some good audio system! They aren’t the loudest, as they solely reached 63 dB on my sound meter. However the sound is wealthy and full. Whether or not watching films or taking part in video games, you’ll definitely take pleasure in both. Although they had been downward-facing, the sound wasn’t muffled in any respect.
You possibly can customise the sound utilizing Nahimic’s software program which is constructed into the Realtek software program. Sadly, you possibly can’t regulate the acquire, which is the one grievance I’ve I assume. However the remainder of the settings are good to have.
The place the settings actually shine is with the HiFi jack. Placing my B&W P5’s on was a whole pleasure, because the sound was stellar. I discovered myself preferring to look at my exhibits on this laptop computer reasonably than my every day driver.
Lastly, there’s a small HD webcam above the display. It’s simply okay – nothing particular. It’s not Home windows Hi there enabled and the low gentle video is form of grainy. In good lighting, the image is respectable although.
Even with all of the area, the GE75 solely has a 65Whr battery. Clearly, they valued the audio system over the battery, which I occur to be okay, with for the reason that sound is that good. However don’t buy this laptop computer anticipating it to final you thru the day, on the go.
I did some testing to see how lengthy the battery would final in sure situations.
- 12.6 W (~5 h 10 min of use)– idle, Finest Battery Mode, display at zero%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 17.9 W (~Three h 38 min of use)– textual content modifying in Google Drive, Higher Battery Mode, display at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 18.Three W (~Three h 33 min of use)– 1080p Youtube fullscreen in Chrome, Higher Battery Mode, display at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 18.7 W (~Three h 29 min of use)– 1080p Netflix fullscreen video in Chrome, Higher Battery Mode, display at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 17.5 W (~Three h 43 min of use)– 1080p fullscreen .mkv video within the Film app, Higher Battery Mode, display at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 27.6 W (~2 h 21 min of use)– heavy looking in Chrome, Higher Efficiency Mode, display at 30%, Wi-Fi ON;
- 68.four W (~57 min of use)– Gaming – No Man’s Sky, Most Efficiency Mode, 60fps, display at 30%, Wi-Fi ON.
Even with Optimus, the outcomes aren’t all that nice. And that’s form of the norm for a gaming laptop computer.
Truth is, there are different laptops round this measurement which have higher battery life. However on these fashions, the trade-off is poorer sound, fewer storage choices and to some level, less complicated and fewer environment friendly cooling. The GE75 being best for you is absolutely going to return right down to what you care about. If it’s nonetheless of curiosity, simply don’t go far with out your charger and also you’ll be nice.
Value and availability
The MSI GE75 Raider is offered at many main retailers, together with Amazon. On the time of this overview, the mannequin I’m reviewing prices a whopping $3400! That is near the costliest laptop computer I’ve ever reviewed, with the very best being the previous Razer Blade Professional at $4k. The excellent news is that this laptop computer has FAR extra worth in it than that previous RBP(I can’t think about how individuals who purchased which can be feeling now).
If this mannequin is simply an excessive amount of for you, you possibly can at all times drop down from the i9 to the i7 processor and save some huge cash. It has much less SSD area, however that mannequin begins at $2630. Comply with this hyperlink for the obtainable configurations and up to date costs on the time you’re studying the article.
If you want to drop the worth additional, you’ll must drop your expectations on the GPU. The GTX2060 mannequin begins at slightly below $1700, if that’s extra to your enchantment. Andrei has reviewed each the 2070 and 2060 fashions, so see his articles for comparability.
To sum up, I actually loved taking part in with this laptop computer. It’s just a little thicker than I’m used to, however the added thickness and weight are price it for the additional efficiency you get. To not point out the good audio system!
I’m additionally very proud of the intense, 144Hz display that they provide with this mannequin. It actually makes a distinction within the expertise. On prime of that, the enter from each the keyboard and trackpad is nice sufficient.
However with added efficiency, you additionally get plenty of warmth and plenty of fan noise. In order that’s one thing to remember when making your selection. These are nonetheless similar to different manufacturers, so I nonetheless assume MSI has one thing nice to supply with this mannequin.
The one different main gripe I’ve is I believe the keyboard might be just a little higher. It might be that I’ve been away so lengthy, however I bear in mind my expertise with the GS60, GS63VR and GS73VR to be glorious, and this seems like the very same keyboard. It’s simply not, although.
I additionally would have appreciated it much more with out the flashy crimson accents and crimson border. Actually, if it didn’t have that nonsense, I’d severely be contemplating buying certainly one of these myself.
On the finish of the day, in the event you really feel like this laptop computer is best for you, I don’t assume you’ll be disenchanted. It has it the place it counts so far as gaming laptops are involved. You possibly can even use it for severe work as properly – simply don’t count on to go lengthy and not using a charger.
In order that finishes this overview of the MSI GE75 Raider 9SG. Hope you discovered it useful. Please depart me a remark and let me know when you have any questions.